The fabulous pharmacist Laura Dowling was working at a chemist counter

for years and sharing her no-nonsense approach to health and wellness on

her Instagram page. As her followers started to mount, she began to

consider making a change. She joins Clare to talk about making the leap

from the pharmacy to set up her own business.

Brian Pennie, author, speaker, Ph.D. candidate, university lecturer, life-change strategist, and recovering addict joins Clare to talk about how change is possible.