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10 years ago, Manchester United and Arsenal dominated the English football landscape.

But with takeovers at Chelsea and Manchester City, that summit has changed irrevocably.

Seventh placed Man United experienced defeat to the latter side last night in a 3 - 0 Manchester derby home loss.

Meanwhile Arsenal title hopes must be over after surrendering a late own goal to draw 2 - 2 with Swansea.

Football writers Ben Lyttleton and Gabriele Marcotti joined us on the line to discuss the fallout from those results.

"United looked like a team in seventh position. United's Old Trafford record - not just against the big sides - has been poor. They've won 12 out of 22 home games at Old Trafford which is less than 60 per cent," said Lyttleton, contrasting that record with the title chasers in the Premier League. 

While City moved to within three points of Chelsea with two games in hand, Marcotti reckons that there could be more twists given the Sky Blues' tricky run in.

Talk then turned to Arsenal's search for a successor if and when Arsene Wenger leaves.

"If Arsene does leave, Arsenal would do well to learn the lesson of succession policy from United. Because what United have done is clearly wrong about appointing a successor. Wenger should not appoint his own successor like Fergie has done. The crucial difference between United and Arsenal is that Ivan Gazidis is likely to stay as chairman whereas United not only got rid of Ferguson but also got rid of David Gill at the same time," said Lyttleton.