The Nobody Heard Them Cry Podcast features the story of the murder of Esther O'Brien at the hands of her husband, Frank McCann, after a number of attempts to do her harm and to end her life. He is facing now the possibility of being released after a significant period behind bars and Marian Leonard, who is Esther's sister, is very much in opposition to the notion that he would ever walk free. 

It's the subject of the podcast hosted by Nicola Bardon. Speaking to Anton this morning was Marian Leonard, sister of Esther O’Brien, alongside Nicola Bardon, host of the Nobody Heard Them Cry Podcast.