When Joe Armstrong entered the priesthood at 18, he never thought he would be leaving it and now practicing as a humanist celebrant.

Humanist Celebrant, chaplain and Author of ‘In My Gut, I Don't Believe’ Joe Armstrong told us his story on Lunchtime Live.

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