Nature is, without over-egging things, an unstoppable force – one which we pale miserably in comparison to with all our brio and intellect.

But we do try to understand nature and the world we live in and perhaps the most fundamental way that we do that is through numbers.

And while we like to think we have a pretty good grasp of them, that’s unfortunately, not always the case.

Georgina Sturge, author of ‘Bad Data: How Governments, Politicians and the Rest of Us Get Misled by Numbers’ and the House of Commons Library's statistics specialist.

She joins Jonathan to discuss.