Vincent is joined by Maryn McKenna, Journalist and Author of books such as Superbug and Big Chicken: The Incredible Story of How Antibiotics Created Modern Agriculture and Changed the Way the World Eats.

Taking Stock with Vincent Wall on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts and Spotify.

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