EU talks aimed at reaching an agreement on a huge post-coronavirus recovery fund have stretched into a fourth day.

The main division is between countries hit hardest by the virus - such as Italy and Spain - and some EU members seeking to limit the size of the fund and stricter controls on its use.

They argue the proposed €750bn package is too large and should be repayable loans, rather than grants.

Shona Murray, is Europe Correspondent with Euronews, and Thomas Byrne is Minister of State for European Affairs, and Fianna Fail TD for Meath East.

They discussed with Ivan on Monday's edition of the Hard Shoulder.