Public transport users outside Dublin are unlikely to gain access to contactless payment systems until after 2028. That is despite more than €35 million already having been spent nationally on the project. Is the sensible solution in the interim period to have your Leap Card as part of your Apple Wallet, and where are we when it comes to the technology to support that?

Joining Ciara to discuss is Grace Boland, Fine Gael TD for Dublin Fingal West and Emmet Ryan, Tech Journalist.