Tom Dunne’s guest is very very hard to pigeonhole. She founded Nasa’s The International Space Orchestra, set up her own underground university and has worked with the likes of Beck, Damon Albarn and Massive Attack.

Now, she has a new movie ‘Doppelgangers’, which will be screened at Ireland’s international documentary film festival Docs Ireland in Belfast on the 25th of June.

She is Director and Designer of Experiences, Nelly Ben Hayoun-Stépanian, and she joins to discuss!