As we ease out of lockdown having survived and somewhat weathered the storm of a global pandemic, in this part of the world at least, you might be forgiven for thinking that we would all be lauding the scientists that have spearheaded the fight against this invisible foe.

But you don’t need us to tell you that not everyone sees it that way.

Why? And how can we convince people that science is to be trusted and indeed cherished?

Naomi Oreskes is a Historian of Science and author of 'Why Trust Science?' - she joined Jonathan to discuss.

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