The newly merged Smurfit Westrock's is the world's largest listed packaging partner. Today they published their 2nd quarter consolidated results and they posted a net loss of $26m on sales of just under $8bn but an EBITDA of $1.2bn. The fact that it operates across 42 countries with paper and cardboard 67 mills means it should be shielded from the de-globalisation brought on by Donald Trump's tariff wars. Ken Bowles, chief financial officer with Smurfit Westrock joined Joe Lynam on the show.