Stephen McNeice
Stephen McNeice

19.37 22 May 2020


Share this article


Today marks five years since the historic marriage equality referendum in the Republic of Ireland.

On May 22nd 2015, Irish people voted by 62% to 38% to legalise same-sex marriages.

Ireland became the first country in the world to back marriage equality by popular vote.

For many, the vote was a landmark moment in the fight for equality, and the images of euphoria and joy in Dublin Castle as the results were formally announced on May 23rd made newspaper front pages around the world.

Three of the campaigners directly involved in the 'Yes' campaign spoke to The Hard Shoulder about their memories of the day and what the result meant to them.

They also reflected on how "there’s just as much work to do as today" in the fight for equality for all people.

'There was a crescendo of joyous delight' - Five years since the marriage equality referendum

00:00:00 / 00:00:00

    

Tiernan Brady, Political Director of Ireland's "Yes Equality" campaign

NO FEE PICS. 17/11/2014. (l to r) Dan O Neill SIPTU, Una Faulkner, IMPACT, Tiernan Brady (Yes Equality). Linda Kelly IMPACT,Teresa Walsh INTO and Laure Duggan UNITE. Photo: Leon Farrell/Photocall Ireland.

Tiernan Brady remembers the day being a ‘blur’, and one that was full of joy.

However, he said there was also a sense of relief and ‘tension being released’ for many people.

He explained: “It was a long process, and having a public vote on your dignity and status… that’s tough on people.

“You have 14-year-olds waking up every morning, listening to people having a debate about their place in society.

“It’s worth remembering this was tough for people, and I think that made the joy all the greater for so many people.”

Tiernan said the journey towards inclusion has a ‘clear goal, but no finish line’.

He observed: “I’m always struck that 38% of people voted no - that’s a lot of LGBT people who walked down the stairs into their kitchens the following day, to houses that perhaps hadn’t voted yes. That idea has to guide us afterwards.

“Winning wasn’t about beating the other side - winning was part of this continuous journey of persuasion. The day after that vote, we still have work to do."

Tiernan - who is now the Executive Director of the Equality Campaign in Australia - also suggested that the tone campaigners set is the tone "the most vulnerable person you are trying to campaign for will have to live with long after you’re finishing campaigning".

He explained: “As tempting as it might be to treat this as a political campaign - where you go on the panel and you really want to beat the daylights out of the other person - that’s not winning with this one.

“[People] shifted their opinion because somebody on their street, or somebody they know and love, stood up and told them a story about themselves - people can only do that when we create a campaign environment that’s respectful in tone, and understand that tomorrow there’s just as much work to do as today.”

Ailbhe Smyth, social activist and co-director of Together for Yes

Ailbhe Smyth says her memories of the day “aren’t all that clear, because I was in a state of static delight all day”.

However, she suggested “nobody could ever forget the rush of energy and delight and sheer joy of that enormous crowd who had gathered in Dublin Castle”.

Yes voters celebrate at the Central Count Centre in Dublin castle, Dublin, as the results of the referendum is announced which showed that Ireland as the country overwhelmingly voted in favour of gay marriage. Picture by: Brian Lawless/PA Archive/PA Images

She told Ivan: “I thought we could win, and I thought we would win - but I never, ever thought the people would come right with us.

“There was that sense this was a hugely significant turning point.”

Ailbhe suggested the country is now “facing in a different direction”, and the marriage equality vote was a key stopping stone along the way.

She said: “[We’re] better set for a future young generation who will have a lot ahead of them.

“It shifted the position, if you’d like - it was a huge majority, and that meant in effect… that the majority of people were with us. That’s something we have to hold on to as we try to fight current problems.”

Colm O’Gorman, Executive Director of Amnesty International Ireland

Colm O’Gorman says he was struck during the campaign about how there were none of the traditional divides - such as urban / rural, or old / young - when it came to how people were choosing to vote across the country.

He also recalls how ‘everybody wanted to hug’ when the results became clear.

He recalled: “There was this crescendo of joyous delight that just erupted across the country.

“It took two hours to get from Dublin Castle to just the other side of the Liffey to get to a restaurant, because so many people wanted to stop, celebrate, hug, laugh and express their joy.

“The universal delight was the thing I was most moved by - this was the moment when we as a country said something about who we are together.”

Drag queen and gay rights activist Rory O'Neill, known by his stage name as Panti Bliss arrives at the Central Count Centre in Dublin Castle, Dublin. Picture by: Brian Lawless/PA Archive/PA Images

Colm told Ivan the vote was “about asserting a Republic of equals - a Republic that was committed to supporting everybody in the same way”.

He observed: “To have to go out and go from door to door in the country where you live, and ask your neighbours and strangers… to grant you your rights… is a pretty bruising and in many ways devastating experience.

“As many photos as there were of joy, there were also screengrabs of tweets and other things of things that had been sent… videos I’d been sent of gay men being thrown to their death by ISIS… threats that I got.

“You don’t go from being a country where we were criminalised for who we were… to suddenly being a country where everything is OK."

He said that while there is always more to do, the particular moment in May 2015 “was huge”.

He told Ivan: “We need to keep focused on that re-commitment to equality - not just to LGBT people… [but also to] those communities that still do not benefit from anything close to meaningfully equality and commitment to their dignity.”

Main image: File photo. Picture by: Brian Lawless/PA Archive/PA Images

Share this article


Read more about

Ailbhe Smyth Colm O’Gorman Marriage Equality Referendum Tiernan Brady

Most Popular

Live: Title

Now playing

00:00:00 / 00:00:00
Added to queue
Removed from queue

On Air

Share

Share


Up next

Episode title
Show
Duration

You currently have no podcasts in your queue.

Go to podcasts

On Air

Best Of Newstalk

Best Of Newstalk

00:00-07:00

Share

Up next

Embedded: Tech in Town

Embedded: Tech in Town

07:00-08:00

Share

NEWSTALK BREAKFAST WITH SUSAN...

NEWSTALK BREAKFAST WITH SUSAN KEOGH

08:00-09:00

Share

ALIVE AND KICKING WITH CLARE M...

ALIVE AND KICKING WITH CLARE MCKENNA

09:00-10:00

Share

TAKING STOCK WITH VINCENT WALL

TAKING STOCK WITH VINCENT WALL

10:00-11:00

Share

ON THE RECORD WITH GAVAN REILL...

ON THE RECORD WITH GAVAN REILLY

11:00-13:00

Share

OFF THE BALL

OFF THE BALL

13:00-19:00

Share

TALKING HISTORY WITH PATRICK G...

TALKING HISTORY WITH PATRICK GEOGHEGAN

19:00-20:00

Share

SOUNDSCAPE

SOUNDSCAPE

20:00-21:00

Share

FUTUREPROOF WITH JONATHAN MCCR...

FUTUREPROOF WITH JONATHAN MCCREA

21:00-22:00

Share

THE TOM DUNNE SHOW

THE TOM DUNNE SHOW

22:00-00:00

Share

BEST OF NEWSTALK

BEST OF NEWSTALK

00:00-06:00

Share

BREAKFAST BRIEFING

BREAKFAST BRIEFING

06:00-06:30

Share

00:00:00 / 00:00:00

Share on