Ivan reckons he needed to develop 'rhinoceros skin' in order to make it in politics.

It's as a report by Sean Defoe for The Pat Kenny Show highlighted the abuse the female TDs endure; on the same day as the National Women's Council highlighted how difficult it can be to get women into politics.

Minister for Social Protection Regina Doherty and Green Party Councillor Hazel Chu joined Ivan on this evening's edition of the Hard Shoulder to discuss.