The five classic stages of grief are denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.

But in his new book, author David Kessler adds a sixth: finding meaning. 

It isn’t just written from his perspective as an expert on healing and loss, but also a man who has witnessed his fair share of tragedy: a mass shooting while it mother was dying in hospital, and the loss of his son at just 21 years of age.

David Kessler is the co-author of “Finding Meaning: The Sixth Stage of Grief", and he joined Ivan on this evening's edition of the Hard Shoulder.